multi boot x64 x86 beta 2

Multi boot x64 and x86 Beta 2 ?

In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb

First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message

In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb

Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb

You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message

Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb

Vista boot Pro is a program I DID odwnload.
Have Vista 32,Vista 64 and XP.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb

Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me more than one " new boot option." Excellent ! Thanks to all.
OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.
Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now
you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb


You can't upgrade from any 86 to any 64. Also all of your registry entries would still refer the drive as J causing you grief.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message

Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me more than one " new boot option." Excellent ! Thanks to all.
OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.
Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But
let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You
can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb


"John Barnes" wrote in message

You can't upgrade from any 86 to any 64. Also all of your registry entries would still refer the drive as J causing you grief.
I was reading here some folks upgrading XP install to Vista .

Or I just can't upgrade Vista x86 to x64?
Vista
referred to its boot partition as C ? ( which caused me some alarm when I saw it on C and not J) So if I upgraded wouldn't it still be C ?

"- Bobb -" wrote in message Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me more than one " new boot option." Excellent ! Thanks to all.
OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.
Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You
can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb



Aren't the drive letters assigned by the O/S at boot? I am dual-booting, and regardless of which O/S I am currently using, the system calls its home partition "C:"
-- Mark
Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
"John Barnes" wrote in message

You can't upgrade from any 86 to any 64. Also all of your registry entries would still refer the drive as J causing you grief.

Don't lets start that conversation again.
"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote in message

Aren't the drive letters assigned by the O/S at boot? I am dual-booting, and regardless of which O/S I am currently using, the system calls its home partition "C:"
-- Mark
Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
"John Barnes" wrote in message You can't upgrade from any 86 to any 64. Also all of your registry entries would still refer the drive as J causing you grief.

No. Just boot the computer with the x64 dvd and select the empty partition when asked. You can't get there by cloning anything and you can't get there by upgrading anything. You also can't get there by booting up XP x86 and trying to start Vista x64 Setup from the desktop. Just boot with the dvd.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message

Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me more than one " new boot option." Excellent ! Thanks to all.
OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.
Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now
you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb


OK, I'll try x64 with latest download/burn and try again.
Colin, about your reply to my other message, "When you burn, burn at the slowest speed permitted by your software. MS reports that three fourths of these problems are actually due to the burn speed. "
I have a problem with MY nero7 that reads the DVD speeed and after that I can't select slower. Since the DVD burner CAN do 16x I wouldn't think 4x should be a problem.
thanks to all Bobb

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message

No. Just boot the computer with the x64 dvd and select the empty partition when asked. You can't get there by cloning anything and you can't get there by upgrading anything. You also can't get there by booting up XP x86 and trying to start Vista x64 Setup from the desktop. Just boot with the dvd.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me more than one " new boot option." Excellent ! Thanks to all.
OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.
Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Colin,
Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You
can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb



My slowest was 6x and went fine.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message

OK, I'll try x64 with latest download/burn and try again.
Colin, about your reply to my other message, "When you burn, burn at the slowest speed permitted by your software. MS reports that three fourths of these problems are actually due to the burn speed. "
I have a problem with MY nero7 that reads the DVD speeed and after that I can't select slower. Since the DVD burner CAN do 16x I wouldn't think 4x should be a problem.
thanks to all Bobb

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message No. Just boot the computer with the x64 dvd and select the empty partition when asked. You can't get there by cloning anything and you can't get there by upgrading anything. You also can't get there by booting up XP x86 and trying to start Vista x64 Setup from the desktop. Just boot with the dvd.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me more than one " new boot option." Excellent ! Thanks to all.
OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.
Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64 installation I think you will have Windows Vista x86 XP Pro
The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some other default option.
You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were getting a boot options screen with those two entries. XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
Windows Old Version of Windows
but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen: XP Home XP Pro
Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is Windows Vista x86 Old Version of Windows (leading to) XP Home XP Pro
That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you might see Windows Windows Old Version of Windows Old Version of Windows (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message Colin,
Let
me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads "Vista x86" and " XP Pro"
After x64 install will I have : "Vista x86" and " XP Pro" and " Windows"
It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my question - can I have 3 options there ? Thanks, Bobb
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
You
can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is always the default after installation.
"- Bobb -" wrote in message In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
Windows Previous version
So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ? If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
Bobb




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